Many pet owners have very special bond with their dogsand realize the healing powers these beast provide . Those clamber with depression , anxiousness or PTSD have experienced the benefits first - hand , and today even science confirms how canines avail citizenry to deal with life-time ’s hardships .
In this podcast instalment , I spoke with Mark Winik , author of “ The Dog Healers “ , about his personal journey and experience with the healing major power of dogs . It ’s a heartwarming and inspiring story that any domestic dog lover or dog owner will be able-bodied to relate to .
mind to the episode in the video above and find out the full podcast transcript below . For more , impose this sequence ’s military post on the officialTheory of Petswebsite .
The Healing Power of Dogs(raw podcast transcript)
Hello everyone , welcome back for another episode of Theory of Pets . My name is Samantha and today I ’m speaking with a really inspiring valet , his name is Mark Winik . Much like all of us , Mark had an experience that changed his sensing of something — and that something was dogs .
I was really excited to tattle to Mark . He is the author of a book called “ The Dog Healer – A Novel ” and I had the chance to read the book of account . It was such an inspiring , amazing tale , I wanted to talk to him and see his side of things and how he decide to save the novel , and , of course , what else is going on with him at this time .
Mark is really talented in many areas ; one of the things he is working on properly now is a infotainment and it ’s about heel as healers as well . Which is something that , if you ’ve ever fuck the love and affection of a detent or even cats , pet in general , that bond is something that really can get you through very unmanageable times . Whether that ’s just a hard time in your life , whether you ’re having forcible or emotional / mental trouble , pets are really such a huge benefit when you ’re not feeling well in one way or the other . That ’s really basically the gist of The Dog Healers .
So now Mark ’s working on a documentary and he ’s wait for people to take part in this and he talks about that in the interview as well . But , essentially just looking for multitude that have been helped by a click , that have had this really amazing story of a blackguard coming into their life and helping them .
So , if you ’re interested in that , there is some information in there . He ’s also have some really great cartoon and , if you ’re take heed to this on YouTube or societal medium , you’re able to penetrate the link to our situation that will take you to theoryofpets.com and you will have the opportunity to check out some of the comics that he ’s done . He works with an illustrator , and he come up with essentially the ideas for these cartoons about dogs , and to thank me for the audience , he actually sent one to me about “ Doga ” and different positions , like , the upward and down dog and it ’s really funny . you’re able to see more on his website ; just click the link there below if you ’re mind to this on social media .
So anyway — Mark is just a really , really inspiring , really riveting man . I was glad to talk to him and now you bozo can go ahead and mind to that interview as well .
Interview with Mark Winik
Samantha : If you want to start out by explaining a minuscule snatch about how you , I think , came into this business sector ? It ’s not really a business , but you love this aspect of hotdog and detent care .
German mark : Well , what I can say is that I ’ve been fortunate enough and blessed enough that mob raised me with dogs and primarily Canis familiaris throughout my whole puerility lifespan . And my family was lucky enough to interact with Canis familiaris and just lie with what it ’s like to understand the warmth that they provide and the care and the beloved , and they taught me and I remember my blood brother and citizenry in my family that it ’s really a particular alliance that we partake with these animals .
Also as a shaver I would spend so much time going out into the woods , without my parent ' indorsement — I would just disappear into the woods with , we had at clip two or three dogs — and we pass a lot of time out in nature . So when we talk about how other animal heal , I think , yes , we ’re all interlink in some means and it ’s really special .
Samantha : Yes , absolutely , I could n’t agree more . I was raised with dogs too and I always think of that as a boon , because it definitely teaches you that bond that ’s so dissimilar than anything else really , any hamper that you have with a human .
score : Right . I retrieve that it ’s very interesting actually , because I last in Branford but I grew up in New Haven . But it ’s very interesting — it never really dawned on me and I do n’t think masses think about it very often , but many of the frank today that are up for acceptation are in urban environments . It ’s almost different in a way because dog that are in an urban surroundings sometimes where people do have less economic substance — their dogs are there more for protection . Whereas more you go out in suburban area or in the rural area — they ’re in the main more for companionship .
So I conceive it ’s interesting to know how dogs can play different role in unlike environments .
Samantha : perfectly .
Mark : But I retrieve intuitively all dogs deep manage about humans and want to nourish something special about the relationship that we have together .
Samantha : Yes , I harmonise with that as well . We hold up in a very rural part of Maine so we know a circumstances of bring dogs whether they ’re sled dog orthey ferment on farmsor like you pronounce , they ’re on big dwelling house with a lot of dimension and they ’re more of a protector . But I call up it always amount back to whether the dog ’s workings or a companion they want to make their people happy . If that means that they require to protect or they necessitate to do a certain job , they ’ll do that . And if they just postulate to be a fellow for whatever the case may be , they kind of always play that function that the person wants them to play .
Mark : Yes , yes I agree with that 100 % .
Samantha : So you ’ve written this book predict “ The Dog Healers ” and I ’m going to link to that . If anybody that ’s listening desire to check that out I will ensure that I link to that underneath our audience , so people can determine that out .
But I have been able to read the Word of God which is amazing and huge compliments to you . I retrieve this is a part of I say the “ favourite manufacture , ” but it ’s not really the best-loved industry . This is kind of an facial expression of dogs and canine companionship that really is n’t relate on a lot . I think that with the therapy dog are becoming more commonplace and you ’re seeing them more for aroused and mental issues now than you were in the past times . I think we ’re getting there .
But your book really contact on something a small bit deeper I think than anything else does in the manufacture mightily now . So that ’s kind of what ’s actuate my interest . Can you state us a footling bit about the book ? We do n’t want to obviously give it out , but sort of how you add up about write it ?
Mark : Well , one — I desire to give thanks you so much for your compliments on the story itself . Coming from you who I consider to be a really talented writer it ’s a special compliment .
Samantha : Oh , thank you .
scar : But the dog — yes you ’re welcome — the dog healers … Well I think we should start maybe with inspiration which I refer on a little act before . Growing up with dogs and knowing what it ’s like to have a particular bond with weenie — partly that prompt me to write the book of account and compose a story of this nature .
I would also say coming from category in my clock time which was — I ’ll date myself now — go back into the ' 60s , not many families were getting carve up or divorced ; today , it ’s much more common place . But really , at the clock time I had a couple of animals and they brought me and my pal through a time that was very difficult for the family and me as an individual , and I learned at a teenage geezerhood that dog really can meet a special function in our life and facilitate heal our look in a means that modern medicine ca n’t . Nobody else seems to be capable to do it like a dog can .
That was partly my stirring . But really what inspire me is on a trip to Buenos Aires , Argentina where my wife and her family are from , I was really captivated by … There ’s a huge number of dog walkers and detent handlers in Buenos Aires that walk anywhere from 3 to 5 to 10 , and even as many as 20 hound at a time , and every morning like hundreds of these dog walkers … It ’s like a especial cottage industry which you might experience in New York , but it ’s like no other place . It ’s a very dog friendly city and acculturation .
So , I was really trance by all these firedog walkers , it ’s just an awesome sight to see . The quantities of wiener Walker and just how frump are walked with just one dog Zimmer or handler through the neighborhoods and everybody seems to be happy and getting along , so that was it . I did meet a immature man down there , his name was Carlos DeMarco and he was known as “ The Dog Healer . ” I met up with him and spent some fourth dimension with him . We walked throughout the city . We had a conversation about his philosophy and his educational activity . He worked with therapy which was really about hint and tone . He did express to me — which is in the book — that with each touch we bring around each other and how tones are very important , how dogs really respond to different tint , soft tones and also firm tones .
So I learned a lot about him and his philosophies in life with brute , especially with dogs . I was rival by this . It was almost a biography changing experience . I decided that I wanted to spell a story about this . I think that it should be more than just his story . But I want to actually turn it — which I did — I turned it into a novel . So it is establish on real experiences with this humans Carlos and also other experience from other people that tell me unlike stories about true things in their lives and really about the great unwashed ’s dreams . This is what inspired me to write “ The Dog Healers . ”
Samantha : I think that ’s perfect . Without blab out about any of the specific stories or anything that are in the book , because obviously you desire people to pick it up and scan it — it ’s definitely for anybody that , even if they ’re not a favored possessor but they just have had ducky in the past times or had experiences with animals . You ca n’t excuse — like I say to begin with — that bond that you have with an creature to somebody that ’s never hump it ; it ’s impossible to know unless you ’ve know it .
I remember that your Scripture is the first thing I ’ve ever read that kind of puts that matter into words and depict how important those Bond are . We call them “ man ’s good friend ” but it ’s not like your relationship with your human good friend . It ’s so much different than that and your account book really captivate that .
So I would advocate it really to anybody that has a beloved of animals and appreciates that . And certainly there are some eye opening things in here , I think , for people that maybe either are n’t aware of some of the different holistic health benefits out there , or maybe they are , but they have n’t thought about animals in that elbow room . So some great stuff in there for pretty much everybody . So obviously I would advocate reading it and we need people to do so , so we ’re not going to give away every little report .
But one of the astonishing things that you have volunteer to a fortune of listener and our readers on Top Dog Tips as well — is that if there are multitude that have stories to divvy up , you ’re hoping to find out those stories . So tell us a little about that and are you planning to apply next stories , are you planning to write another book ?
print : I conceive there ’s a couple of questions in there and there ’s a couple answers there . Yes , I ’m planning on another book and I ’ve already started to begin on an outline . But I believe more importantly related to this project and the message — I actually have started working on a infotainment . We started filming a couple week ago , and it ’s really based on the message of how dogs serve heal our hard liquor and just how many amazing tarradiddle there are out there .
So it ’s not just about my story and about the book and about the message , but really what I want is stories which we have already gotten from other the great unwashed that are just amazing stories on how dogs have aid people through some of the most difficult times in their lives . I signify they ’re just really awful tale out there . And yes , we want to document them , we desire to take them , we require to have a ingathering of story just so mass could really revalue how many different elements of life that hotdog can assist with humans . Also how humans can help riposte that same something special , attachment with bounder .
So really the docudrama is really something I ’m very excited about because it ’s something I think … What my goal is , is to put on picture show and TV and share other people ’s news report and we ’ve already catch some great stories and I ’m just very excited about it . And I think there ’s other mass that are just as excited that want to share their stores , you fuck ?
Samantha : Yes , utterly , I ’m excited for it and I do n’t have a personal story to share . But you know I think that everybody that has had that bond with a hot dog and can relate to that would be interested in this book and a documentary film that variety of is along the same assembly line . So I ’m excited for it too .
But if anybody does have a fib about the impact of a dog as a therapist in their animation , how can they progress to out to you to be part of the infotainment if they ’re interested in that ?
Mark : They can actually email me at mark@thedoghealers.com and it ’s pretty much that wide-eyed . They can send me a video or they can just get off me a very abbreviated synopsis enjoin that they have an astonishing story that they ’d wish to share and they can just charge me an email . We ’re going to be … It ’s not me , but I have an assistant that will reply to everyone . I call back this is going to be a foresightful - full term project .
Samantha : perfectly , I ’m sure .
sucker : So it ’s not just about making a short documentary . So I believe that it ’s operate to go right smart beyond just 20 mo or 30 arcminute documentary . I have program to really do something exceptional with this . And I cerebrate people people are excited about it . Anybody that I talk to that has already divvy up awful stories , they just said this is really a fantastic way of helping people sympathize how hot dog can toy a really particular role in their life .
The spectrum is very vast . It may go from just sheer society . It may be you know kids that have had a hard time with a divorce , or emotionally disturb . Maybeseniorsthat are just so happy , they ’re in an grownup home where , you know they ’re just so happy to just have a dog come and touch their life and they just want to extend to them . It put a smile on both their faces .
Just like the click have sex its persona when he goes into a place like hospice . Or even working with people that do volunteer work at Yale New Haven Hospital , say for illustration the paediatrics department , and it ’s just so special . I mean to lighten up a minor ’s day and bring in some joyousness into a Kyd ’s life that may be suffering or ail from something . To bring in an animate being that volunteers with their human Tennessean is just something that , you ca n’t put words to it . It just brings a smile to a child ’s grimace and I consider that ’s great . So thing of that nature .
Samantha : Yes , absolutely .
marking : So matter of that nature is what we ’re really trying to catch . And just there ’s an limitless amount of howling storey like this that we just need to catch and share with as many people as possible .
Samantha : perfectly , it is an exciting project . I think like you tell it may be a small bit more tenacious term project , just because I mean you ’re going to get a capital answer , and you ’ve already talked to so many citizenry and there are so many more out there .
I think one of the biggest things with physical ill and whether you ’re vernal or previous , sometimes between hospital stays and treatments and all the medico ’s visit and the medical jargon that you ’re strain to understand and the research that everybody ’s doing it becomes really overwhelming . And that can be frustrating , it can be cheerless , it can be , it can really bring …
Mark : Overwhelming .
Samantha : Yes , absolutely and it can bring your emotional province down and that ’s when your strong-arm body is trying to fight something and you ’re emotionally … You ’re just not … Your kernel ’s not in it ; that makes it very difficult and I believe that ’s where a fellow come in . As a dog , it ’s that petty respite that you necessitate from all the aesculapian jargon and all of the doctors ' assignment and things like that . It just adds that little spark of light source to your day .
Mark : Yes .
Samantha : It ’s something like you enounce , I mean you just ca n’t put it into Bible but your book does a great Book of Job . I think the documentary will be even more hefty in that aspect because you ’re going to be hearing those first - hired man accounts from the substantial people that have lived that story and are telling you about it . I ’m assuming you believably are going to feature some of the hotdog , if they ’re still with their owner . So I think the documentary will kind of just add together that supernumerary level and be a quite a little more powerful .
So I ’m excited for you . I recall that ’s really going to be a swell piece .
soft touch : Yes , well give thanks you . No perfectly , certainly we ’ve already captured some footage with dogs . I ’ll give you a couple of examples of a mates of cracking organization that are non - profits , that have really some great program for volunteers , where man and their dogs get specifically train to go in and offer in a lot of these different environment , to help people in all aspects of biography . One is called Pet Partners which is located in … Its main headquarters is in Oregon and they have affiliate where they do training through out the country . It ’s just really a wonderful organization . Another one for example , that ’s in the east coast , is Angels on a Leash — I think that say it all .
Samantha : What a nifty name , yes absolutely , that ’s what I was conceive .
Mark : Yes , and it ’s just another very special , very wonderful administration that ’s non profits . And works specifically with training human being and their dog to go into different environments and help people . It ’s that simple . It ’s just about helping multitude but at the same time it ’s like … You know we have this word called “ second nature ” but I like to say it ’s almost like first nature for a hot dog to want to bring delight and want to help oneself and need to please a human being . Whether it be somebody close to them , but what ’s really so particular is how they can do this with a alien . You acknowledge they meet a stranger and just can immediately provide something especial to them . It ’s just incredible that an animal can do this and humans do n’t do it so easy .
Samantha : dead , and that ’s perfectly read .
Mark : Is that first or 2d nature ?
Samantha : It ’s not something that humanity do for others human beings when we meet a unknown . Whether they ’re sickish or healthy you do n’t just go over to them all excited and attempt to brighten their day , it ’s just not what we do , but it is a dog ’s …
Mark : We may even shy forth from that .
Mark : Unless we ’re in the professing , so …
Samantha : Sure .
cross : But go beforehand , I ’m regretful to interrupt you , so , you were making a very impregnable peak .
Samantha : No , that ’s was just perfectly enounce . You bed it ’s not something that we do . But like you say , the term “ second nature ” is n’t really right for a Canis familiaris either , it is their first nature . That ’s what they do and it seduce them as felicitous as it makes us , so it ’s a really special matter .
print : Yes , so that ’s what the Dog Healers is all about . The message in the documentary , and this is , I mean it goes beyond the tone of rescue . I remember deliver creature is fantastic and there ’s a grown trend that ’s been here in this country for the last five , if not ten days . But I think the next literal enceinte trend , I desire is , is how we really learn to work with dogs . And how many people can just hope because it ’s not just wonderful for the dog as a volunteer , but the mass that I ’ve met and spoke to and that we ’ve interviewed that actually work as military volunteer feel just as great and terrific about volunteering and convey joy to somebody ’s life , and it could be a alien . But it ’s really about somebody that is in need of help . It ’s really what more of us feel better about I think , at the end of the day , so , about helping other multitude and the domestic dog make it really comfortable for us .
Samantha : Yes , I intend that ’s …
score : We actually acquire from the dogs , so it ’s actually like … Somebody require me a doubtfulness once — “ What can we learn from dogs ? ” This is one of the really wonderful thing we can learn from a frankfurter is how to give care and love and allow that unconditional warmness to a human that is intuitive to them and it ’s not always nonrational to us .
Samantha : Yes , I signify , I think it ’s like we said , humans we do n’t naturally just go over to somebody . And it ’s not mayhap that we do n’t require to , it ’s just that it ’s awkward and we have those variety of feeling , and the dogs sort of service to bridge over that gap , so it ’s making the dog glad , it ’s construct the someone who needs the dog happy , and it ’s piss the person who is the animal trainer of the wienerwurst happy as well .
So I remember that ’s an important thing for people to take away from this is , it ’s not inevitably that humans do n’t want to help oneself each other , but it ’s just more difficult , where the dogs get along in and kind of help to bridge that crack a little bit . So I think that ’s authoritative .
Mark : dead , absolutely , yes .
Samantha : And I will verify that underneath the connection to the podcast and the interview , will also be that e-mail address which is mark@thedoghealers.com . If anybody want to send in a story and perhaps be part of the documentary film , if they have an awesome chronicle to partake in .
scrape : Sure , dead . That would be big . Yes . They can also actually post us a TV if they want , if they have an iPhone or Apple phone , the new smart phones are capable of taking incredible video , so …
Samantha : Yes , somebody just require to institutionalise in a short clip . Sure .
Samantha : terrific . That ’s all the doubtfulness that I have for you today , but is there anything that we did n’t mouth about that you ’d wish to discuss before we go ?
stigma : It ’s very interesting because the other thing that I ’m also working on for calendar month now with a wonderful illustrator is we have a series of cartoon solicitation with the same name , The Dog Healers . I do n’t cognise if you ever got the opportunity to look at it or if that was even add to your attention , but …
Samantha : I was just go to say , it ’s funny because your assistant sent me an email just before this consultation and there was a little cartoon on the bottom and now I see how that fits in .
Saint Mark : Yes , so it ’s just , the cartoon … I ’m not an illustrator but I ’ve wanted to . I ’ve always make out cartoon . I found an incredible illustrator and what I do is I just put together the creative part where I follow up with a scene of two dogs , typically , and the captions . Yes , we now have a collection of about 35 different animated cartoon and we ’re actually starting to pass on them to some , I would say , well - know publishers and we ’ll see ; hopefully they ’ll take up issue some of our current cartoons because the response has been really wonderful .
The only thing is we have over 30,000 followers on Facebook so that ’s grown in a little over a year ; we ’ve produce to over 30,000 follower on Facebook , which I recollect is reasonably amazing , considering a year and a half ago or two year ago I never have it off anything about Facebook or even used it .
Samantha : That ’s significant point to point out too , because I will link up to your Facebook varlet as well , so hoi polloi can see the content on there and the animated cartoon and affair like that if they require to follow you guys . Are you putting the cartoons together for a al-Qur’an or are you just thinking of publishing them like in a hebdomadary publication ?
Mark : You made an interesting point in time — I ’m not really sure . I ’m doing it in good order now . For me it ’s been more just fun . I do n’t have any real unbendable plans about am I going topublish a bookout of this ? Very potential . Or are we just going to submit this to publishing house that are brand names that have been around quite awhile that do publish cartoons , so we ’ll see . It ’s like the Dog Healers I consider more of an adventure story that contain you on a spiritual journey and that ’s really the same with the cartoon . This is just an adventure for me and it ’s like if something chance corking . If it does n’t it ’s like I ’ve had a good metre produce them and desire the hoi polloi that see it , it touches them in a way that makes them smile and that ’s good enough .
Samantha : Yes , yes , no absolutely . I guess I did n’t actualise that you had so many cartoons done already and you keep working on more . So I call up it would make a great little burnt umber tabular array book or something . But if you just apportion them like you just say I mean you have 30,000 followers on Facebook so if you just share them and people get enjoyment out of them that ’s nifty too .
Mark : Yes I think of we ’ll see what take place . It ’s very interesting like some of the feedback I ’ve gotten on the account book has just been really wonderful from some masses in the manufacture and just in the favourite world and also in the culture medium world .
countenance me just … Here , I have one the right way here I ’m going to record this to you .
This is from Steve Gruber ; he ’s the communicating music director for Mayor ’s Alliance for New York City Animals . He wrote this ; I ’m go to read what he wrote .
— I was engaged from page one and get laid the fantastic human brute bond , machination and howling storytelling . I await the movie .
Yes , so we ’ve gotten like great feedback like that from dissimilar people that are perhaps more well known in either the media circles or the pet rotary .
So the other thing that may happen is , we ’re actually starting to attain out , tattle with some agents about really put “ The Dog Healers ” together and package it as a film , which is also pretty exciting .
Samantha : You have a lot of things in the works it sound like .
Mark : Yes . And there ’s some great theatrical role in the book , both two- and four - legged characters . It takes position in just an exotic place . As you ’re reading the Quran it ’s very engaging and you want to see what happens next , and it ’s so unpredictable about what ’s buy the farm to find next . Like I say , it ’s really an escapade story that pick out you on a phantasmal journey , and it ’s not just about healing but that ’s the main inherent message . But what makes it an interesting playscript to read is just the great quality and this adventure . You also check about the culture of Argentina . It ’s a unlike culture altogether .
Samantha : Yes , absolutely I fit with you . I think there ’s a persona in there whether two or four legged that everybody can link to . And going through the story you are very engaged . It ’s an easy - to - read story ; it ’s very well indite in that means ; the flow is very great .
If somebody just want to pick up a book and do some light recital , I call back it ’s a great choice . Like I said for really anybody whether you ’re a dog proprietor or just a wienerwurst fan or somebody that ’s seem for a more religious read , it ’s really get so many great aspects to it . I think it ’s just a great read .
Mark : I ’ll just share a story with you . I went to the Doctor of the Church this good morning just to have some uncomplicated thing retested , and there ’s a nurse that works in the doctor ’s office and she said , “ I ’ve been read this history to my eight year old girl and we ’re just about finished . ” She said , “ my girl and I absolutely eff the Holy Writ and she ’s decided she wants to become a veterinarian after reading the news report , and she had me call the University of Cornell , the Vet Department to set up an appointee for her . ”
Samantha : Oh , wow …
Mark : And she ’s eight year honest-to-goodness . So that ’s really special when you’re able to concern …
Mark : Because I think Isabella is a great role model for young people to go after their dream , and in this case the dream is about becoming a dog healer . So when you actually discover that from a parent it ’s great . It ’s a expectant feeling for me and I catch a real beef out of it . It ’s just a great report .
Now she want to be interviewed for the documentary too .
Samantha : Oh cool … [ laughs ] Hopefully you’re able to influence her in there somewhere .
It ’s always nice . I think that ’s one of the high compliments that you may get when your work prompt someone else , so that ’s wonderful .
Mark : Yes . And with all the stuff croak on … I ca n’t even keep an eye on the news any longer with all the stuff going on in the human beings . So to get off the field of study , it ’s like — the world seems to be a screwball place decent now and just — the news it ’s just , I do n’t know .
I get a lot more fulfilment just spend time with my family and my two wonderful dogs . We have a Wheaten Terrier and a Woodle — and I can live without the news . If I did n’t watch it for two calendar month , I do n’t suppose it would make a difference in my life .
Samantha : I agree with that too …
Mark : I think we touched on a mountain of dissimilar areas .
Samantha : Absolutely . You have some really exciting things get along up . So I am going to keep your contact as well , and possibly we can touch root word in the future tense , when you ’ve commence some more of this stuff cash in one’s chips on . I ’m worked up for you , for the documentary — see where it goes with the cartoons . You ’ve vex a lot of things on your crustal plate right now . believably seems a little bit overpowering , but it ’s exciting too .
Mark : Actually , you live what . I do n’t ever really palpate overwhelmed about this . I just really enjoy doing what I ’m doing . You make love what they say ; somebody very saucy said — if you know what you do , you do n’t really have a occupation . You experience ? That ’s kind of how I palpate ; this is a passion project for me and I boom on it . I trust it makes a difference in citizenry ’s life .
Samantha : Absolutely . I remember it will . Like I said , the book ’s a outstanding read and I think the infotainment will be even more sinewy to people . So I ’m mad for that for you . Again , give thanks you so much for being on the podcast and for talk to us . I think this is a petty niche in the dog industriousness that has n’t really been explored , and I hope — like you say — that we ’re going to see a vogue in the near future where “ firedog therapist ” becomes more of a mainstream thing . So I go for for that .
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