It ’s no enigma that many best-loved food for thought companiesout there are concerned more in their bottom tune than render character nutrition for our dogs . You and me both have seen the research , we ’ve show the clause and tracked all those favourite intellectual nourishment recalls . But what else are favored food for thought companies obscure from us ?
In this new hour - long podcast , I ’m joined by an expert from the preferent food industryRichard Darlington , CEO ofBrothers Complete Dog Food , and we ’re here to verbalise about the out of sight dangers of sealed domestic dog intellectual nourishment brands and what many pet food caller are designedly staying silent about . Richard stresses the importance of being a diligent dearie proprietor when it comes to picking nutriment for your dogs and cats , and how to do that .
We also contend to briefly discuss some of the dangers outside of the pet food for thought merchandise , and talk about flea treatments , dangerous dog toys and other pet supply , how to make the correct choice that would be dependable for your pet and what to avoid . This turn out to be a very revealing and interesting conversation , and I recommend ever responsible for pet owner to have a listen and hear what an insider has to say about the diligence .
Listen to the episode in the television above and find the full podcast copy below . For more , visit this episode ’s stake on the officialTheory of Petswebsite .
What Dog Food Companies Aren’t Telling Pet Owners(raw podcast transcript)
For those of you who are fresh to the show my name is Samantha and today I want to blab out about all of the misconceptions , I gauge , for a lack of a sound term , in the pet industry . We ’ve dived into these in the past times in some of our installment . I have talked to other experts in the pet industry who have talked about some of the obscure thing that we as pet owner need to know in monastic order to provide the best guardianship , the practiced nutrition , for our pet .
A lot of intersection in the best-loved industry are not as strongly regulated as the products that are made for human beings . So , we are starting to see an increase , a huge step-up , in the rates of certain disease — cancers , diabetes being just a duet — in our canine and feline comrade . And a lot of this is being forthwith linked to the products that we are using for our dogs , the plastic products we ’re using . Things like chew toys and arena are filled with chemicals that are leaching into our wiener system . Things like flea products and shampoos are made with chemicals , toxins , that are leak into our pets arrangement through their skin . And of form , pet food being the large one .
We ’ve seen so many recalls in late year and had so many issues add up up in the tidings and the culture medium about different ingredient . They are being sourced in countries that do n’t have regulation like the United States . company are using ingredients that are making our dogs gruesome . Or cats , it materialise with computerized axial tomography too . I always say dogs , but really pet in general .
So anyway , today I am speak with a piece name Richard Darlington and Richard is the CEO of a company squall Brothers Complete Dog Food . Now , Brothers take a shit an ultra premium dog solid food and it ’s kind of an interesting chronicle . The retentive story brusk is that Richard has not been imply in click food his whole biography and in just a moment I ’ll dally the interview for you and he tells you about the journeying that he took to get to where he is now with Brothers .
It ’s a alike story to what a lot of us have and if you look at their website a lot of the people that have set about feed in Brothers food have shared alike stories and we ’ve done it too in our home and the basis of the story is — you ’re uneducated , you feed your hotdog a lower quality food , your dog get sick , you realize that the food maybe is cause some of the government issue , you do some research and then you change over to a higher quality food .
So Richard ’s goal and his family ’s finish , it ’s a kinsfolk have business , their goal is to make healthy favored solid food for pet parents that is very vaporous . The company is very overt . They source everything and make their nutrient here in the United States . They use gamy quality element . They actually own a store down in Florida where they deal their best-loved intellectual nourishment and their goal is to make a gamy quality food for thought and to prepare pet parents as much as possible about the benefits of feeding a sound solid food and the dead on target monetary value of goodish preferred food . A lot of preferred proprietor immediately take on that high quality intellectual nourishment is going to come at a high Mary Leontyne Price but today you ’re live to hear some thing ’s from Richard about how those monetary value can be truly compared and you may be surprised to find out that sometimes higher quality food is n’t all that much more expensive than a lower quality food for thought because you have to feed more of the lower quality food and of course you are go to be saving on vets costs and things like that .
So I ’m going to allow Richard explain that to you . I had a cracking consultation with him . I find out a passel of majuscule data about best-loved food for thought in general and of class the Brothers brand . It ’s a smaller company so I actually had n’t pick up of them before . I met Richard and started speak with him so I learned more about the company itself and just some of those misconception in the pet industry things . And he talks about some of the things , the rule and regulations in the favorite manufacture , and gave some really heavy representative of times when it ’s misleading to us as preferent owners the things that we are told from these companies .
And again , this is n’t the first podcast I ’ve done on this subject . This one is a petty bit more broad in terms of what it comprehend , but we ’ve had other guests on as well that have speak about some of those misconception and some of that misinform information . So it ’s really significant as a pet proprietor that you do your enquiry and that you really make your pet ’s health a top priority .
So again I ’m extend to go ahead and let Richard dive in and kind of explain some of that to you . Just so you know , some of the clobber that he does talk about , there is some enquiry and thing that he mentions and there ’s links to all of that on our hypothesis of Pets website .
So if you would prefer to stand out on there and kind of follow along , or get that info before you listen to the podcast , and education yourself or get it after the podcast , whatever you choose to do , it ’s right on there at Theoryofpets.com . And I will recapitulate the interview at the end and just explain again where you could find that . So if you ’re drive and you do n’t have time to indite it down or anything like that , I will come back and allude al-Qaeda after the interview as well .
Interview with Richard Darlington
Samantha : First of all Richard , thank you very much for coming on the show . Would you mind just starting out by talk a little bit about your fib and your background ? It ’s very interesting and it gives a great background as to how you got into pet solid food in the first station .
Richard : A friend , a charwoman I ’ve dated a while ago who moved down to Florida with her Logos was talk about doing something . She always have it off dog-iron and wanted to make … She had been a single mama of three . And it ’s a toughened life . She had her own business and everything , but she wanted to work with dogs , so she go down to Florida with one of her son .
And I just always require to be involved with dogs because basically when I was a shaver a dog saved my aroused living . I mean I , if it were n’t for my little dog patch , God only knows what would ’ve happened to me . And frankly , I had n’t realized how much I thought of dogs . I mean I love fauna , all creature , but that dog really , really was so crucial .
The thing about the report is that — and I did n’t wo n’t go into too much detail , but I cuss to god I would n’t be surprised at all if there is something involving angel with this dog , because I do n’t know how it ’s potential that it did what it did , but at any rate it … Basically this little dog just kind of saved my emotional life . It was just — its dedication to me was so sodding . I think it understood how much I want it when I was a minuscule boy . I just do n’t cerebrate you ’re ever the same when something sleep together you so entirely . Now I certainly am not . And I always wanted to be involved in dogs , and some way just test to repay what that blackguard entire love life did for me .
So I went down to Florida , chased Melissa down there and we finish up opening a dog intellectual nourishment storage .
Samantha : And that ’s your — the pal ’s dog food that you are involved with now ?
Richard : Well that — first we open up a detent food for thought store . Melissa was going to give up a doggy day care . But do you believe in premonitions ?
Samantha : utterly .
Richard : Well , I ’ve had a couple hound in psychic events in my life-time ever since from when I was a youthful boy . And they all came true , every one of them . I would see a picture of the futurity and I would get like a mental communication about what it was or what it meant or what I was go to live , and every one of those come truthful . And I told Melissa about them . But literally , we pass five month fit out a store to be a doggie day forethought and we ’re quick to open on Saturday . If this is a Friday afternoon we ’re going to start the next sunrise . So Friday good afternoon we fit down to Miami — we ’re from Philadelphia area — we went down to Miami to have lunch .
And I read , “ let ’s go down to Miami . We ’ll have tiffin , and then tomorrow we ’ll start the daycare . ”
So we go down to Miami and there was a dog food store down there , and Melissa wanted to walk in and just look around . So she ’s was looking around . I walked to the back and I await in a freezer — like a stand up Deepfreeze with a glass doorway — and I was seem at the match kind of sad pieces of glacial solid food for dogs and I had another premonition . I do n’t commonly get them when I was older , most of them came when I was young , and like I was given this book of foreboding —
They still happen , but all of the sudden one fall out . I ’m star in this deep freezer and I get this communication that was “ do n’t afford the doggy daycare . Open a dog food store . And the wienerwurst food computer storage is n’t what you ’re go to eventually end up doing , but you ’re going to learn something doing that that ’s go to take you to what you ’re going to stop up doing . It ’s going to be extremely successful , and extremely helpful . Productive . ”
So , we go away the store and go across the street and ride down for luncheon and I ’m thinking — oh my god . Now , how am I buy the farm to secernate these two ? Because Melissa was there and her son , who was twenty - five at the clip — tell them I just had a premonition not to start the doggy day care but to open a dog food for thought memory , which would intend another three months of study and a few hundred thousand dollars more , just crazy .
But , I ’ve learned that — they all come true — they ’re not general , they ’re specific things . So I told her , and they see at me and run “ well , OK . ”
So , we went back , have it all apart , and start looking into a dog food store which we opened up three months afterward and three - hundred thousand one dollar bill later .
Samantha : Wow .
Richard : And , that basically take all my life savings . So , we open up the dog food store and we started doing raw and we did all the mellow end foods . But we did all the research and everything and we reckon raw was the way to go . We had like nine immense six foot chest immobilise and two vertical freezers .
Samantha : Oh wow .
Richard : We brought in all kinds of sensitive nutrient , in fact I would make all our own natural food and I ’d wreak all daytime long and go home . I had a mixer in the service department and I would fag up and mix different food and package it for our customers because we kept pushing in the altogether thinking — that ’s find to be the good correct ?
But as time went by it turned out that most of the dogs would either stop eating it or would get a nutrient unbalance or the multitude could n’t afford it . Out of the hundreds and hundreds of people that did it , only a few ended up stay with it .
So what happened with us really was an instruction in the industry . It was n’t pretty honestly , it was discouraging to us to find out that these troupe that were make blackguard food were not only not putting ripe things into the dog food but they knew what they were doing they just did n’t care much , all that mattered was how tight can we make money .
So we kept looking for a dog intellectual nourishment caller that would make good stuff and it was so discouraging , we ’d really think — oh god that ’s great we got … Here ’s a good company , allow ’s push them ; they have dear food . Then we ’d discover out they were lying about what was in the food , they were either pose something in there they were n’t telling us about …
But see , they would open up to us because we were part of the industry . I approximate they just adopt that everybody kind of knew , I do n’t cognise .
So finally after a few years — I mean , you get to know all these masses that come into your store , you know . They become family .
Samantha : Yeah . Absolutely .
Richard : Babies are carry … It ’s your family and their family . It ’s like , we had Melissa and I , and her two boys — her other boy came and joined us , and it just — to detect out they were literally lying on the recording label . say clobber that was totally not true . I just pronounce , “ man , I ca n’t recommend this stuff to these families that trust us . They asked us for advice , and I just ca n’t do it . ”
So I articulate , “ look , either we ’ve got to look into make food that ’s good for you . I do n’t know what ’s involved , but we ’ve got to check it out . ” So we ’ve been doing some inquiry along the room apparently , just a part of trying to be better at what we were doing . Melissa found a guy cable who had a PhD. He was an animal dietitian . He was awesome . He has a Ph.D. in bowel biology and that — Another thing that was bump along the elbow room was I started noticing all these dogs — Remember I told you my stepdad was a veterinarian up in Pennsylvania and —
Samantha : Yes . Yup .
Richard : Frankly , he used to see his client maybe once a year to just arrest on the health of the heel . Unless there was an accident or something . These people were run short to the vet , like , every month . And I enunciate , “ why do you go to a vet so much ? ”
Then I originate to see that all these dog-iron had skin conditions and I said “ you recognise , Melissa , I had systemic candida almost all my life story and did n’t know about it . I ’d go on to the MD and none of them could figure out — my case was breaking out . [ inaudible ] — “ at one point I turn fifty , ” he said to his doctor . “ I think we ’re past that . I think that ship has sailed , OK ? ” I ’m 50 . “ I ’ll grow out of it ” is n’t a right enough excuse any longer and I mean I ’ve always had a sugar craving and I had my hide was always dry and always break out .
So just by luck somebody said , “ heed , I run across this really beautiful blonde . ” I was single at the time . He order , “ You ought to go see her . I remember she ’s your kind of adult female . ” So I go to see her and it grow out she ’s a doctor of Chinese music . And she was here from Maui ; she had a girl ; she had come here to the United States to attempt and get some assist .
So I depart in there to see her and apparently to just see if there was any interest group for me . And she say , “ Well , what ’s your problem ? ” and I enounce — I … jeez I do n’t , I felt fundamentally o.k. . I was n’t , have n’t had a problem for 30 long time that nobody could ready .
So she carve up me for like 15 minutes and she say , “ you ’ve got systemic candida . ” So for 30 years I ’d been to doctors off and on . I never heard that full term . What does that think ? And she explain it to me . — Well your gut outflow and the Candida Albicans , which is a yeast slash fungus , it ’s in everybody ’s gut , gets in your stock stream , and then it feeds off shekels and then you crave sugar , and that ’s where your sugar craving hail from . And that fungus in your blood stream is why you snap off out and why you spoil and why your peel is wry .
So , you got to be josh me . I ’m think , I ’m looking at this cleaning woman , I ’m thinking : How is someone this beautiful and this intelligent , believe this mumbo jumbo stuff ? I just did n’t , I did n’t believe it . I just thought it was so much nonsensicality . I said “ well , how do you be intimate if you have it ? What test do you do ? ” and she pronounce , “ well , you do a pot analysis . ”
So no one has ever inquire me to do that before . so I forecast , what the hell ; I am going to find out . So I did it and sure enough I was riddled with Candida . So , I said , “ OK ” . I said , “ so you ’re right , what do you do about it ? ” Speaking here , there has got to be some medicine to take . She said , “ No , you do it with dieting . ” Diet ? I think , Jesus , I mean , I have to admit I was a stark dingbat , I had no clue a diet could be that important .
I followed her advice and six months by and by I was the healthiest , literally fifty four year honest-to-goodness , I was the strongest , healthiest specimen of myself that I had ever been . Not kidding you , I could take a forty foot run and throw it up on my motortruck like it was nothing . And it all was just from eliminate grains and Solanum tuberosum and sugar . Just healed a leaky gut . And then the immune system eventually bring in everything up .
So , now I am inFloridaand I am look at these dog-iron and saying — take heed , my God , I rely to God these all have the same condition I had . You know ? They ’ve all sustain itch and juiceless hide and hot place and scooting and , you jazz ? Everything scratch .
So I said , — you make love , look at what they ’re eating , you know ? Definitely never come about to me to start bet at what the … I assumed that the dog food for thought companies were all acting in good faith . And , you roll in the hay , just put healthy intellectual nourishment in the weenie food . So I am looking in and I am sitting there looking and intellection , oh my God , it ’s all grain .
This happen within calendar month of open up the dog food store . So , that ’s what activate the inquiry . And we start study and doing research . I just , I was bedaze by the analogue between what I had go bad through and what these dog were exit through . So , we had a flock of this , hundreds of people that the dogs are just , you know , itching . What do you do for itching ? What do you do for itchiness ? I signify we heard it dozens of times a day .
So I have them aside and order look , we want to work with you to try and help straighten out this up . If you would be willing , we just need to start changing the dog ’s diet and see what happens .
So , I set forth to do this project where I would search for solid food that had no grain , this was right smart back before the whole metric grain - free thing commence , but there were one or two foods that started it and we put him on that , and sure enough it cleared it up within months .
Next thing that happen was , just when we were pat ourselves on the back , the symptoms start to total back . So we looked at what they were position in the food to replace the metric grain and it was potato — odoriferous Solanum tuberosum or white potato . And sure enough , that was causing problems so we begin experiment with getting the dog all off of grain and potato , and that did the trick .
There was more to it in that we . pop off to the trouble of finding this PhD and those things that you’re able to total to the food for thought , but we just did all the eld of enquiry of taking stuff and nonsense out of the solid food to see what was make the job . Most of the hotdog would recover by themselves over time .
So , when we finally suffer this guy , he was awesome and , because he had a PhD in gut biology , I realize from my own personal experience that the gut really was the essence to the system ’s health for a mammal . I also knew from research that eighty percentage of the immune organisation is father in the mucosal lining of the gut .
The other thing that is fascinating is that the only matter that separates the gut and the fecal issue from the whole eternal sleep of the body is a individual cubicle stocky layer of lilliputian satisfying cell called enterocytes . Well they are orthogonal , not on the nose straight , but they ’re not round but they expect like little blocks that stand by together . That ’s all .
That ’s all that divide the gut from the rest of the body . Because the gut has to enthral the minerals in the food and the broken down amino group acids . And it needs to go through something reasonably well-off .
The job with that is , that when you damage that little one layer cell thickset layer of enterocytes . All of a sudden fecal topic starts getting into the parentage current , and then systemic Candida .
Now everybody ’s arrive Candida and women are often fourth dimension familiar with it because they get barm infections . It ’s the same thing . But when you take that yeast / fungus . It ’s an interesting animal . It ’s both — if you overfeed it , it becomes a fungus and it takes over , and it ’s nature ’s reclaimer .
It ’s like here come the Grim Reaper to wrick you back into , you know , dirt so that the next generation can spring up . But , you know , you do n’t need that lead on inside you why you ’re alive .
And that ’s what gelt does . And that ’s what all that grain and Irish potato feed the sugar . Now , they start replacing it with things like chickpeas and lentils . These end up damaging the bowel .
So there are only a couple things you may feed in without doing harm . And that ’s what we put in Brother solid food just sodding — like , either pea plant or one of the uncommon things that does n’t do too much scathe . And astonishingly , there is this Cassava base which is pretty much a big food throughout the equatorial regions throughout the world . And lodge who use Cassava tooth root as their staple carbohydrate or eighty pct of their carbohydrate , their is no diabetes . No adults with onset diabetes .
Richard : Amazing . Yeah , and as it turn out , the reason for this is the bowel bacteria — just to give you some estimation — there ’s about ten trillion cells that make up your physical structure . In your Costa Rican colon there are ninety trillion bacterium , in a healthy colon . There ’s ten clip the cells in your colon than there are in the whole rest of your eubstance .
Samantha : Wow . Wow .
Richard : Not like a slight program . It ’s a monumental , monolithic undertaking , and that ’s where everything happen , and this commonwealth , unlike Europe , is just kind of talking about the colon as , like , “ have ’s change the subject ” — but the truth of the topic is that ’s where health and disease all set about .
So , focusing on the health of the colon and getting — observe it … Well , most weenie have now have damage colons , because they ’ve been eating so much grain , and so much potato , and so many — even now , the new things they ’re all putting in there are damaging the bowel in other ways , but what happens is that stuff all sustain through the bowel lining , and into the catgut , and into the blood stream , and now you ’ve get an immune system that ’s entirely overworked .
I imply , imagine — see , every metre when you eat food , when you wipe out nitty-gritty … A dog , for instance , there ’s one thing different you need to understand , decent at the start . Dogs and people are way dissimilar in this one respect — dogs do n’t call for carbohydrates to get glucose , we do .
When I ’m working , I can separate the difference by the close of the Clarence Shepard Day Jr. . My brain has been using up all the glucose and I need a little of something . Dogs have a process called gluconeogenesis . They exchange fatness to glucose . They do n’t need saccharide . In fact , carbohydrate damage them . When you have high glycemic carbs . you could give them carbs like the tapioca ’s commodity that American ’s know of Cassava , that ’s what the power is .
one-half of that goes through into the gut , it ’s literally resisting being digested . So it goes into the gut and then fertilise the good bacterium , that ’s why it ’s so healthy . So , if you look at Brother ’s that ’s get say 36 % protein in the bomb expression , the verity of the matter is once you pull out the half the Cassava it ’s belike get 46 % protein . So I ca n’t put that on the label that ’s illegal . But I ’m just secern you that ’s one of the intellect it officiate so good .
So when you now go back to a dog who exhaust carbs , 35 to 65 % sugar , and high glycemic carbs you ’re talk Sir Tim Rice , potatoes , sweet potatoes — what happens is in the dog it triggers insulin and the insulin converts it to plump out , this is why so manydogs are heavy .
I suppose over half the bounder are all overweight and this is the reason why , they do n’t demand carbs . This nonsense about a dog is basically changed by the few thousand year they ’ve lived with valet , that ’s not the way — the truth of the matter is 25,000 yr old grey-headed wolfs has mitochondrial DNA that is 99.8 % identical to your click . Or put it the other way your dog has mitochondrial deoxyribonucleic acid that is 99.8 % identical to the grey wolf . This is after 25,000 years , that ’s the difference between a white-hot man and a black human beings , just so you know , it ’s literally selfsame , there ’s slight lilliputian variations but you ’re basically saying that your little …
What form of dog do you have ?
Samantha : We have a Labrador retriever and small older beagle mix .
Richard : OK your short beagle mixture — that ’s basically a gray wolf in a different material body . Now when it get along to diet , the nuclear DNA is different from the mitochondrial DNA . The mitochondrial deoxyribonucleic acid is the whole push transfer organization ; from food , to energy , to the cell . That ’s what has remained the same and that ’s essentially what we ’re speak about with dieting and energy transferral .
The nuclear desoxyribonucleic acid is what they change , to change personality and shape . you’re able to do that in a few contemporaries , but the mitochondrial DNA , which is the diet , that ’s remain constant , and it ’s really only clear through the female person . And that ’s what nature does , that ’s specifically , so that does n’t alter and you have little change within a couple multiplication , you ’d suffer a whole species .
Now go back to the part where you ’re feeding a dog , a carnivore , who ’s system is designed to eat fat and meat . He goes and run through animal , and you ’ve find out the tilt I ’m sure . “ Well sometimes , they consume an animal that was use up farewell , so in the venter is some unripened . ”
OK , so mayhap there ’s 2 - 3 pct . It ’s preposterous , you know , this tilt . They eat an creature , they ’re a carnivore , they eat an fauna ; it ’s fertile and it ’s meat and it ’s cartilage . I mean , that ’s what it is and that ’s what they ’re design to eat up . They do n’t need carbs . Through gluconeogenesis .
Samantha , if you and I had the ability , which we have to some degree , but if we had that sort of ability to convert fat to glucose , we ’d be able to eat up any damn matter we wanted . You could eat your spunk ’s delight , because the fat is converted to glucose , but only the hotdog can do that ; well , to the degree that they can do it . Now nature put that in there for a reason . In nature , nobody ’s feeding these frump a course a day , these violent bounder .
Samantha : Right .
Richard : So they might go a week without a killing . So they have to have to have the energy a week from now , to be able to give chase the animal down and eat it ; kill it and eat it , right ?
So nature project it so that when the hound , the wolf , the coyote call for vitality a week after not having food for thought it just but converts fat to glucose , and the muscles have all the vitality it needs .
So that ’s a big departure , and it ’s widely misunderstood . So , you know hoi polloi think they can because dogs have been hang around masses eating carbs , that carbs are OK .
I have a 14 - class - old son , he ’ll rust cheerio , or frigid cereal three meal a day if I permit him . Will his body metabolize it ? Absolutely . Is it unspoilt for him ? utterly not . Ya cognize ?
Richard : Just the argument that a dog can metabolise anything means that it ’s OK for the hound to eat it is beyond absurd . And you ’ve got literally , you ’ve got veterinarians saying poppycock like this . It ’s a crazy res publica we live in ! I mean I do n’t know how well journey you are , but this state has … The AMA has dominate , I mean — have you ever been to a chiropractor ?
Samantha : Yes , yep !
Richard : OK , they definitely help right ?
Samantha : Yes .
Richard : The AMA will tell you that they do n’t exist , they ’re tough , they do n’t acknowledge that it ’s any trade good .
I signify c’m on , what kind of universe are we living in where the AMA , the people in accusation of our medical connection , do n’t know chiropractors as legitimate ? Ya know , you may know , you may know one , a brace doctors that will personally , but the AMA basically says “ No ” .
So now you got the FDA getting demand in food . I mean we all know that they o.k. drugs and food that are not proficient for us .
So imagine , what ’s going on with dog . You ’ve sire veterinarians claiming they eff what to do with intellectual nourishment and they ’re not trained in nutrition at all , and they on the face of it do n’t do any of their own research . So , you ’ve even got nutritionists , I mean these are citizenry that are train in nutrition and they do n’t sympathise catgut biology .
It ’s as though they see the nutrient up in distance somewhere not in the existent body . I intend I have talked to a PhD that ’s run million dollar , multi million dollar , test for the bigdog solid food company . Because they are always trying to test to see what they can put in the dog without killing it . aboveboard .
So they did all of these tests , to prove that this dog could metabolise certain food for thought , well you know what they did , they literally introduced the solid food straight into the intestines without putting it through the organization . And so that is go to learn them something , you have sex ? The fact of the matter is a batch of these foods they do legal injury before they get there , you ca n’t just isolate it the system is too complex .
So that ’s why the thought of empirical notice is so crucial and where we really had the giving of having this hound nutrient memory is we could literally take note veridical cad , thousands and G of them over years and days .
Do you know what the test for frank nutrient is ? You get it on there is a feeding test , do you know the specifics of how that works ?
Samantha : No .
Richard : OK well here ’s how farcical it is . If you are break down to do a feeding trial to supposedly try that your dog food is OK . First of all , according to AAFCO , all the feeding trial is go to do is turn up that the dog wo n’t pop off if it eats that solid food for three months . That ’s right in their lit , that ’s all they ’re saying . That if your dog-iron passes this test , if your food passes this psychometric test then it mean that someone else can feed their dog your food for thought and their hot dog wo n’t die . They ’ll take eight dogs , you have to give them eight dogs , for the test , it is a three calendar month test . fundamentally , they are going to feed these pawl for three months , at any time during this trial you’re able to remove two of the dogs without any explanation . So two of them could get sick and start to die , and you could remove them from the test without any notes about that , or any reference to it .
So now you have six dogs left . As long as you feed them that intellectual nourishment for two months and they do n’t lose more than 15 % or 20 % of their body weighting , something like that , and they do n’t die , they passed the run .
I intend . They could have hotspots . They could be rub like crazy . They could be going nuts . But , you would be given the AAFCO Stamp of Approval if you had an actual eating trial to rise your food was good .
This is because earlier , when the big manufacturers saw the FDA get along toward them , and the regulation come toward them , they were pretty keen . They tell to each other , “ Guys , we need to do our own ego - regulation and hopefully sell it to the Government , ” which is exactly what they did .
They formed a body of , fundamentally , them , and said , “ OK , let ’s make up the rule . ” They made up the rules . So when the unlike States come and they say , “ Well , shall we bear for all the research or shall we just accept AAFCO who ’s doing it themselves ? ” They all take AAFCO . AAFCO just happens to be the big , big guys . So small guys like me , that actually make unspoiled intellectual nourishment , are not let to say it because they make certain what you could and ca n’t say on the label on the intellectual nourishment . Which , you bed , it ’s inauspicious . They ’ve get the fox guarding the wimp coop there .
But all this research , and you get these giving - money troupe . I mean , you ’re in an industry now where unfortunately , you have to make a living . But you ’re going to run up against this clock time and time again . It ’s a tough affair . Because no dog should be eating caryopsis . And , anyone who does any research for any amount of clock time , would find that out , which imply , unfortunately , they ’re make a hell of a lot of money on this solid food .
I ’ve got a thing I was endure to send you call a reliable cost chart . essentially as Brothers has designed a whole gang of stuff in the solid food as well . But my tip is , Brothers at 84 bucks a traveling bag seems to be expensive . But the truth of the matter is , it ’s less expensive than probably 80 % of the food out there . Because what nobody takes into explanation — and this would be a great web log article — is how much of this food you have to fertilize every day .
It ’s amazing to me , because women are unremarkably extremely shrewd shoppers , and yet in 86 % of the dog solid food sales I conceive is women , or at least on note it is . So when you buy intellectual nourishment , and you ’re in the depot deal dog-iron food , in 11 years , not one person ’s ever require me , well how much of this do you have to give a solar day . They just front at the sticker Mary Leontyne Price . Oh this is expensive , it ’s 84 . I ’ll take this 50 dollar food for thought . Well the 50 clam food you have to give two cups a day . The 84 dollar food you only have to give one cup a twenty-four hour period .
So in the end , you ’re spend a hundred dollar instead of $ 84 and you ’re getting a solid food that ’s full of rice and bull . Grain , and … you fuck . It ’s sound to make your hot dog demented and then you’re able to go to the ex-serviceman , and you ’ll drop another thousand or two thousand dollar .
fundamentally that ’s the way it ’s working right now . So when we saw that , we just decided — look , I said “ guy , we got to face into making our own food ; this is awful ; this is just dreadful .
So we found this hombre , and we allege — George , I want you to make the healthiest food possible in kibble form . Because that ’s what 98 % of thedog ownersfeed . At that clock time I still thought cutting was believably the good mode to go . Although now I think the good manner is Brothers with a opera hat , a peeled beaver , which is what we did .
Our dogs have n’t see a veterinary surgeon for 7 or 8 or 10 years , because they do n’t ever need a vet . They are totally healthy .
essentially we find this guy wire ; and I state , “ George , make me healthy food for thought ” . George read this guy had been in , at the time , over 30 old age ; and he ’s made food for every major company in America from enquiry projects and everything . He said , “ Well , you ca n’t afford it ” . And I said , “ Well , you experience , you should at least , and I want you to try . Just come up with a formula and countenance me see what . ”
So he came back with a formula , and he was correct essentially . It ’s a little too expensive to do the normal way , but we thought — OK , we ’ll sell it in the fund , and we ’ll sell it online , and see if we can make it happen , so we started to make it .
surely enough , it ’s extraordinary piece of work . Within calendar month — 6 month ; maybe 8 months — about 50 to 60 % of the store had switch over to it and trouble were melting away . We did n’t do any advertising , could n’t give it , did n’t have any . It was all word of mouth . Generally speaking , approximately 50 % of the people that set out and get such results that they never got off it ; they stayed on it .
Of the other 50 % , after their dog got healthy , about half of them would drop off . The other half that drop off would eventually come back a few months later once their dogs start pay off sick on the old crap that they thought they were saving money on .
Basically there was just a firm growth from half the customers . The thing that I want to do really long term , is seek to set up real alteration in the health and the timbre of the food that ’s fed dogs . The raw affair … What do you feed ? Do you feed raw ?
Samantha : I tip — it ’s cooked — but it ’s a homemade . I make homemade dog food .
Richard : OK . Somewhere between that and what most people . Most people just do n’t have the time or the …
I intend , you ’ve got to be intelligent to do homemade . you may do it for a while , but it ’s not easy to equilibrize all the nutrient .
Samantha : No . And we do work with a nutritionist to create recipe . We have our laboratory , who is obviously much bigger than our beagle , so we ca n’t just make one food and fertilise it to both . They each have their own dieting . Thankfully for me , I stay at home , I work from home , so I have more time than a mountain of favorite owner . We do do some raw ; they get raw bones ; there is some bare-assed , but it ’s a homemade diet and we have to work with a professional nutritionist that ’s check .
You note it as well , because you worked with someone with a PhD. A lot of multitude just assume that your regular veterinarian is going to be able to recommend affair about yourdog ’s diet , but people do n’t earn that they ’re a general veterinarian and their actual canid or feline nutrition education is very minimum . Most of their education is on the thing that they do the most which are thing like castrate and spay or treating usual diseases and thing like that . They ’re not in reality educated completely on nutrition so a portion of people do n’t realize how important it is to figure out with a victuals expert and not just your unremarkable vet .
Richard : Right . The cat that we use literally assume into account the temperature that it ’s cooked at and actually replaces anything that ’s heat damaged and we put in digestive enzyme and we in reality add more prebiotics , limited long - string prebiotics that feed the good intestine bacterium and not the pathogenic bacteria . The gimcrack oligosaccharide that they put in their food prebiotic — if they ’re only one - two - three - four cells long — they ’re ordinarily one or two — they ca n’t eat up it , they really feed off of it . You want to get a prospicient chain , like 12 - 14 chain , and then the undecomposed bacteria clogs up each terminal and then rust from the end in so that it ’s only accessible to them and not to the pathogenic bacterium . But then the other affair is that the probiotic that are put on , right ?
See as long as you ’re willing to do it your fashion , you may do that . you may add probiotics right at the last min . As long as the andiron eat it up in a few minutes , you ’ll be fine . But all theprobioticsyou put in andiron nutrient , are 99.9 % dead by the time the dog eats it . They ’re literally activated by the warmth and the wet in the dog food itself .
So really our PhD found this guy , a microbiologist up in the north somewhere , in Minnesota or Nebraska or something , and he makes an encapsulated probiotic flora . Which he sells to pig granger and other creature , but he makes one for dogs too . So it ’s the only one that I ’m cognizant of . But we use it because it delivers 99.8 % of the probiotic flora to the bowel where it ’s the reverse from even .
You sleep with , it ’s the kind of thing where they put those probiotic flora on the recording label , knowing they ’re not going to be alive when the dog consume it . It ’s just that kind of shoddy practices — I just bump it distasteful . I jazz it ’s all about the money and making Corporate America happy , but …
If AAFCO were really an means that was trying to do goodness for hot dog , I would recall they ’d do something about that . But , of path , they do n’t do that . So the longsighted and forgetful of it is , is that I do n’t think it ’s possible to fixate the system of rules . That ’s my guessing . You make love , you ’re looking at a couple company that each do $ 18 billion in hot dog food . There ’s $ 36 billion right there between two companies . And now Blue Buffalo and another one that are at two billion each now — all this stuff .
alas , there ’s just no way around it as far as I can see . It ’s all befall in the gut . You seem at all these inadequate hotdog that are miserable , and we see them coming into the computer storage all the time . It just break your heart .
There ’s a website that I get , because there are websites that are allergies for dogs . You just take care at the stuff the pharmacy people put on there , and all they talk about is what kind of drugs — what ’s the latest drug you’re able to give your wiener . It just makes me sick . It ’s just a shame .
The hard part is — a lot of sentence mass will believe you are just crusade the dog food . Now I will go on there , and I wo n’t even tell them I ’m making firedog food to try and differentiate them what to do . It ’s not about that . It ’s about if you love dogs and you love animals , I just do n’t honestly see how you’re able to make them sustain . I have in mind we rust animals . I wish well I did n’t have to , but I do n’t do it much anymore . It ’s just part of lifetime . The suffering part I do n’t like . Did you ever see that movie , The Gods Must Be softheaded ?
Samantha : No , no .
Richard : It ’s about life-time on the Serengeti . And the piddling the great unwashed of Serengeti , and it ’s a true story . What they do is they like , shoot an antelope with just gaolbreak the skin . It ’s a little sleeping potion , and it puts them to sleep . They postdate it until it devolve asleep . They say a prayer to the look of the antelope for thanking them for becoming part of their kinsfolk , and they fundamentally put the animal to sleep without it endure at all . That seems to be as dear a agency as any .
You ’re essentially home - feed in your hot dog , but 98 or I do n’t cognize — it ’s up there . citizenry just ca n’t be — they ca n’t treat it . They ’re eating , just going to eat up dry food . Basically what we tell them is … We put them , after the whole few years of raw , we put them on Brothers , because I jazz that ’s balanced sustenance and basically say — look if you go off opera hat , just put a bleak top hat on and then give them a raw osseous tissue at least once a week just for dental wellness . Basically , that ’s worked now for so many year .
I do n’t even know if that … I do n’t even know what . We do n’t use any topicals . This systemic flea thing that ’s essentially poisoning the dog ’s system to get revenge on the flea , which does n’t make any good sense to me .
Samantha : Oh , it ’s utterly — it ’s easy to see when you look at the statistic over the last 20 or 30 year and to see the rate of disease . And it ’s not just dogs . It chance in other animals . It happens in humans . The pace of disease just keep to increase . There ’s more cancers , more diabetes . Even rarified disease are becoming more pop . If you face at those trends in the medical side of it , along with the style in what we ’re feeding or the different treatments that we use . Like you had mentioned the flea and ticking treatments that I ’m a big advocate against those as well , because it ’s just chemicals and toxins that you ’re putting on your dog ’s tegument .
If you await , you ’ve mentioned a mountain about the pet food industriousness , too , but and I preach about that quite frequently whether it ’s in articles on Top Dog Tips or here on the podcast . I often talk about the things that you ’re redact in your andiron ’s organisation when he ’s eating the lower quality commercial solid food , the filler , the additive , the preservatives , all the dissimilar dyes and artificial flavorings . The inclination goes on and on and on of the junk that ’s in a plenty of commercial diets that you ’re giving your domestic dog and he ’s just putting into his system .
It ’s terrible and if anybody suppose that it ca n’t be the products we are using that are making our dog sick , just look at those statistics on the medical goal of it and see the huge gain in the charge per unit of these major diseases like cancer and diabetes and thing that continue to pop up .
It ’s frustrating . I think I see it a lot like you do . Most of the time when hoi polloi enquire me about pet nutrient — very , very rarely , it ’s only happen a handful of fourth dimension , that mass ask me questions about the top tone foods , the more expensive foods ; I always hear people say that they ca n’t afford this dieting , they ca n’t afford that diet , so they just select whatever the $ 20 bagged or $ 30 bagged dog solid food . When you factor in the monetary value of it , like you said that you ’re feeding less , which is a Brobdingnagian cost saver , and the veterinary bills . You ’re not pay to go to the vet because your domestic dog has a roseola , or he ’s chewing his pelt off , or , you screw , the ear infections have been join back to the detent food . The veterinary cost and cost of the food and how much you ’re feeding , if hoi polloi would think about that . They get that sticker shock , initially , but it certainly factor out on it in different ways .
So hopefully the unornamented lower limit that you guys take out from this interview and the information that Richard gave us today , and the thing that he and I discussed , is that you need to do your enquiry . It ’s so important as pet proprietor to explore the … Let ’s talk about pet food , just because that ’s kind of what we focused on . Any product you buy for your dog really . Research the food , the product itself , the company that manufactures it . If you still have questions , do n’t just take on that because it ’s not written on the website , it ’s not true ; or if it ’s not written on the website , it must be true . You need to send a quick email ; give a phone call to the client service line ; inquire the enquiry that you have .
You are the one that ’s 100 % creditworthy for your dog . The diet that he eats , the products that he uses . If your dog is being poisoned by something , some kind of toxic chemicals , either in the food , in the topical flea discourse , in the toy that he ’s chewing on — the distressing reality of it is , it ’s your shift . It ’s our fault as favored owners for not develop ourselves , not choose sagely the products that we ’re going to use for our pets . And the same can be allege for cats , can be say for horses , can be said for any animal that you have .
A little bit of research , while it takes more clock time , obviously , than just going to the best-loved store and choosing the package that you care the dear — it does take more fourth dimension to get the enquiry done , but in the long rill it ’s going to save you time , it ’s going to save you money , you ’re not live to be dealing with the stress and the brokenheartedness and the battle of having a sick dog .
And in the end it ’s work to tot years to your pet ’s life , and of track that ’s what all of us are sprout for anyway , is to give our dogs the well-chosen , healthiest , longest life-time that we possibly can . And that , again , can be said for all deary , not just dogs . We want our pets to be with us as long as potential , and it ’s up to us to check that that we allow them with the care and the proper nutrients , the proper food , the proper supply to live that long and healthy life .
So if you guy wire have any questions , either for me or for Richard , anything that we can answer , I would bang to have Richard back on here , so if you guy have a cluster of doubt , leave them on our internet site which is theoryofpets.com . you may write them in an e - mail , you may record them , and we will habituate them on a future podcast .
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