Today ’s podcast is all about that , and how or why we worship our dogs and qat . I had the joy of talking toJeff Lazarus , author of booksDogtologyandCatakism . These hilarious and delightful reads are about everything any pet owner will relate to , but they also bring home the bacon a destiny of insight into why we manage so much about our dogs and cat-o'-nine-tails , and include actionable tips on how to better understand and intercommunicate with our pets .
If you ’re passionate about favorite ownership , you ’ll revel this installment as me and Jeff cover a mint of ground here . We sing about why mass are so in love with their dogs ; Jeff explained the meaning of “ Dogtology ” and how he came up with approximation for his books . As a bonus , I also asked him how other pet owners and aspiring source can get their book of account off the priming and he was generous enough to share some great advice . melody in !
Listen to the episode in the video above and notice the full podcast transcript below . For more , visit this sequence ’s billet on the officialTheory of Petswebsite .
Why We Worship Our Dogs(podcast transcript)
INTRO : If you looked up the form of address of this podcast before heed to it , you might be wonder if it ’s go to be ground off some type of spiritual spiel . And I am certainly not here to get into the argument about faith .
However , as humans , we do seem to have this need to believe in something , whether it ’s some form of a higher power or some kind of a force like Karma , that just finally seduce everything good in the man .
We believe in all these dissimilar things , and the term “ dogtology ” was actually strike by a gentleman’s gentleman name Jeff Lazarus . Jeff Lazarus is here to talk to me today about Dogtology and another book that he wrote that ’s visit “ Catakism ” which are just kind of really entertaining fun plays on this belief that we have as preferent owners that really , our lives sort of center around our animals . We have these weird ritual that we do for them every daylight .
In our house at five - thirty in the morning and five - thirty at dark , and our firedog know it and we have intercourse it and it ’s just sort of the way that we do things . Every pet proprietor has these different things that we do for our hotdog .
As a culture of pet parents , we kind of joke about he fact that our bounder run our lives , our bozo run our lives . And it ’s genuine to a certain extent .
One of the thing that Jeff and I kind of chuckle about is — vacationing . There are so many preferent possessor that ca n’t take a vacation when their domestic dog babysitter is off , because they only trust one other person with their pet . So in every little aspect of our lives , being a pet parent variety of takes part in every little part of our lives .
Again , Jeff is here today to talk to me about Dogtology , and where this came from . We had a pile of fun talking about this book . It ’s a really well-off , humorous , light read . It ’s something that every pet proprietor can relate to — Dogtology and Catakism .
If you are watch this on YouTube or social media , there are contact below to our website , theoryofpets.com , where you may get on and take any questions that you might have of me , or I can pass by on to Jeff . There are also liaison to the situation where you may check out the Koran and get a little turn more information about them .
Interview with Jeff Lazarus
Samantha : Where did this thought fare from ? How did you get started with the idea of Dogtology , and then the Koran itself ?
Jeff : Well , Dogtology is about all of us dog lovers , and those of us who are obsessed and much worship our frankfurter . We ’re like — well , we do n’t literally worship our dogs . Well , but wait a instant . [ jape ]
Kind of sort of … You know … It ’s like , go appear at the TV . Can you watch three sequential TV commercials and not see a hotdog ? Hard to do now .
Samantha : credibly not . That ’s true .
Jeff : It ’s to the point of — hold off , what ’s the product ? Is that for a railcar or cavernous disfunction medicinal drug ? I do n’t bang , but did you see the dog ?
Samantha : It ’s so cute . Yeah . [ laughs ]
Jeff : It ’s really rummy . Dogtology is really about us , and it ’s about how we ’re in the club , and we ca n’t hold back to put a jacket or a jumper on the frankfurter . And like , right now , today , we better have the dog ’s talent for the holidays all picked out and wrap and everything .
Samantha : Absolutely .
Jeff : Really , that obsession has a name for it , finally , and it ’s not just “ wienerwurst - loving . ” It ’s bid Dogtology . And it ’s the primary belief in millions of hoi polloi ’s lives , and a lot of fun .
Samantha : utterly . I could not match more .
I mentioned to you before that we are crazy dog people in our house . And cat people as well ; in reality we have two hot dog and four cats . So we ’re beast lover here .
So of course the books sparked my interest . I was excited because I was able to stop out a copy of it ; I welcome a copy in the mail . And it ’s just … I do n’t have it away . It ’s odd . It ’s so relatable , I think , for anybody . I was n’t able to check out Catakism , but I did look at Dogtology . And I ’m take for granted Catakism is probably pretty close-fitting to the same lines as far as how it ’s written .
It ’s an easy read , but it ’s just fun and it ’s kind of informative . There is some affair that I intend we do sort of instinctively , I guess , with our frankfurter , and we do n’t even actualise it .
You talk a mickle about communication with your pet in the leger , so I really call back it ’s relatable for any hound fan or cat lover , which was my favorite part for sure .
Jeff : Yeah , you ’re right for “ Catakism , ” it ’s a quite a little like “ Dogtology , ” in just the band up and how we ’re in the club and we ’re obsess with our cats . The picture in Catakism can arguably be even funnier then in Dogtology , I must say . And that ’s the number one matter people pick up Catakism , and they ’re just flipping through , and just crock up up , and I ’m like — yeah , you should learn it too , it ’s really not spoiled .
And so , it ’s a cracking up , it ’s the nine Holy Writ of Catakism , from the book of Whiskers , the book of Surrender , the book of Hairball . The chapters are appropriately named , but , it ’s the same general estimation .
Each Word of God has a chapter really about the communicating with the dogs and the cats . Like the book of barks in Dogtology , and the al-Qur’an of Purrs in Catakism . And it ’s about the communication that we embark upon — no pun intended there , when I said the embark . It just sort of just comes out of me , right , it ’s the dog lover that shows in so many of us .
Samantha : That ’s right .
Jeff : These books are about us . And it ’s the number one comment that I get from people , is — That book was about me . I ’m like — yes it was .
Jeff : I tell multitude this book is about you , it ’s about you Samantha . I mean you , hey , you have two books , because you have two dogs , and four CAT . You should really have both books .
Samantha : It is true . It ’s definitely very relatable . And I think as wiener lovers we all have our only little thing . You talk to your weenie a certain mode , some people have a piddling nickname for their dogs . Everybody does their own footling weird matter with their dogs , that you wonder sometimes , like am I the only soul that treats my dogs or my kat this way ? Am I a softheaded dog gentlewoman , or crazy cat lady ?
But it is becoming a civilization , especially here in the United States , and really all over the Earth dog are becoming more pets than they used to be . They used to be seen as working animals , they help out on farms and they caught rodents and things like that . And now we do unquestionably still have some lick dogs , but a wad more we ’re just seeings click used for that bond . They ’re our companions more than anything and a great deal of times even working hound , you know , their task certainty still comes first , but they ’re still a companion , they ’re still sleep on somebody ’s bed every night and doing their task every day .
Jeff : That ’s veracious and in the al-Qur’an of Bones in Dogtology we speak about how dogs have really bring up themselves or we ’ve elevated them in our society from worker . Actually before that they were just scoundrels and tramp the streets and bivouac back before our time . But then it became , here ’s the full term , “ part of the sept . ” And then when hoi polloi say well “ it ’s like the dog is part of our family ” and I ’m like , are you kidding me ? The dog ’s the best part of your class .
Jeff : And so , there ’s really a lieu that a wad of dogs are now higher than that and that ’s trusted companion and confident . If you think about this , a heap of us might even know people that are married or have a significant other , but yet their dog is still the number one primary kinship in their life .
Samantha : People jest with us sometimes . My husband and I are both avid dog lovers and so we have two dogs . But because I influence from plate , both of them when they were puppy I was training and they ’re definitely more attached to me because we expend more time together . So people always laugh and we always say you know our dogs , they ’re both girls , so they ’re mama ’s girls . And they go everywhere in the car with me when I ’m running errands and thing like that . in reality I ’ve had multitude ask me if when you go to places as a kinsperson do your dogs model in the front seat or does your husband get to sit in the front seat ?
So it is , it ’s honest , I mean even for the great unwashed who are married or people with family with children , dogs have been raise to this inconceivable level that before hundreds of years ago I ’m sure it was never even suppose of that dogs would ever get to this blank space .
Jeff : No utterly . Think about it , if you ever have a bickering with the husband who do you turn to ? The domestic dog .
Samantha : The dog , that ’s ripe .
Jeff : you may talk to the dog . Now the cats ? perhaps , well the cats will look at you — well , we ’re mad at you too .
Samantha : Yeah , depends on the qat . When you first said that the photos in Catakism are more humourous than in Dogtology , I cerebrate that ’s a CT personality thing , they ’re a little grouchy sometimes and we find a lot of humor in that .
Jeff : incisively . We so do . But again , the husband can get send to the lounge but the ultimate punishment would be — well the frump ca n’t go sleep with you on the sofa , the dog ’s in the bedroom with the wife . That ’s the ultimate punishment .
Samantha : That ’s correct . So when you decide that you were going to compose this Good Book , how did that mind come to you ?
Jeff : The infamous date story . It ’s so much playfulness . It ’s a really short , but affecting story . Several years ago , right after I lost my four - legged companion , he and I , we were joined at the coxa . He had me tightly wrapped around his mitt . He was the cutest , funniest someone I ’ve ever known . That ’s right . He was hilarious . His name was Romy .
Right after I mislay Romy , I pass on this engagement with this womanhood and I bang that she had two dogs and we were leaving the engagement walking out the door and she ask me , “ Hey by the way , what is your religion ? ” And I think — Well now ? I was just about to say good-bye and I should belike not call her again , but that ’s another floor . So I just all of a sudden blunder out — Dogtology . She count at me amusing and then she laughed out aloud and I laughed and then I never call her again anyway .
But years subsequently , I was joking around about the topic and I recollect Dogtology was something that I state . And one day it just strike me out of the profane and I think back I ran to the data processor , I typecast in “ feeling , ” and I wait at the definition of “ belief ” and it ’s know something or someone to be true . And I ’m like , hold off a second . Then I looked at the arrangement of rituals that we do as hot dog devotee and khat lovers . But as dog lover , the things that we do every sidereal day , and the base on balls , oh the dog wants to go on the paseo , well guess what , we ’ve been train to do that too , and to express joy at it .
So it just come to me that Dogtology is a notion in dogs . Because we worship our dogs , right ? And so I began write this book of account about all of us dog lover and accept fun doing it .
Samantha : So Catakism came after Dogtology ?
Jeff : You know , Catakism funny enough , it was really abide belike about two calendar month into write Dogtology when half of the people that I would name Dogtology to and say — OK I ’m writing this book Dogtology , here ’s what it ’s about . Half of them would say — OK that sounds great , but where ’s the cat book ? So , I was like , OK , OK . So not only was I fearing that cats were plan to vote out me , but now their humans were too .
So I thought , I get it , I got the memoranda , OK . And , you know what ’s interesting about cats in households in the US is that in 1985 , that long ago , the routine of households in the US that have computerized tomography pass that of dogs . That long ago . And so Catakism is definitely a must and is as popular or more than Dogtology . So , it ’s definitely a major opinion in our world , and together here ’s the very simple logical argument . If you were from outer space and looked down on the major planet ground , would n’t you reason out that Catakism and Dogtology were primary beliefs ? All you have to do is look at all the paw print and osseous tissue shaped everything that we have in this world . They ’re everywhere .
Samantha : How true , very truthful .
Jeff : Yes , it ’s what we do .
Samantha : You ca n’t go into any store anymore without catch it . A luck of store now have their own section of , it ’s not the pet section , but it ’s like the pet lovers section . And it ’s just t - shirt and write utensils and stationary , and everything with cats and dogs and paw print all over it .
Jeff : It ’s the man we create and it does n’t hold back . It ’s more and more and more . We have sex see to it favored stores , do we not , that have the originative public figure for them , the cute name ?
Jeff : The adept one I ’ve ever see was “ Bark , Bath , and Beyond ” .
Samantha : Oh , that ’s good .
Jeff : That ’s the good name I ’ve seen ever , and I trust they ’re still in line of work . I just crack up and we just think it ’s so cute . When I inscribe the Word I stamp a paw photographic print and you would opine that I put a hundred dollar poster in there . They ’re like — oh my god , that is so cute , you ’ve get to bless another book . I ’m like — wow , OK , it ’s just a paw print .
Samantha : That ’s queer . We , my husband and I , take our dogs virtually everywhere with us . We have a drinking chocolate lab , Sadie , and then a little beagle mix , Molly . So they ’re very well bear because we socialize them a set . So they are fine walk in a city mount , an urban setting , or something like that , meeting people and dogs . So we love taking them to certain , we literally , frankly , I could n’t make this up . We have certain town that we wish to call in in the summertime with our dogs because they ’re dog favorable and they ’ll put , the computer memory , will put little H2O dishes out of doors for walking dogs that take the air by . And there are sure restaurants that allow dogs and places that give weenie biscuit and stuff and nonsense throughout the townsfolk .
So we have these three or four spots , that , those are our go to summer sort of picayune route trip property that we go and attend out on the weekend because they are cad - centered . Because it ’s the town that ’s dog - centered .
Jeff : perfectly , I think of you may get the travel guidebook of detent friendly hotel now or pet friendly , they go by both terms . I mean we will design holiday around our pets . In fact I have a booster who said last hebdomad , “ You know , we were thinking about Europe , but we ca n’t be away from our dog that long . ” Seriously , and you know as funny as it is in thinking they ’re crazy to not go to Europe , you kind of understand at the same time .
Samantha : At the same time , I was just go to say , we have design vacations . We only go out our dogs with my female parent . She ’s their “ grammy ” . We always say they ’re go to grammy ’s . And that ’s it , so if she ’s not available , we have changed dates of give way out because she was n’t uncommitted to watch our dogs . We do n’t leave them at embarkation facilities or anything . We only trust that one someone . So it ’s emphatically something that ’s very interchangeable .
I mean , to put it in position for you , we credibly have five or six different people who babysit our human child for us . There ’s a high shoal fille that lives flop down the route from us that does it . We have a twosome of friend and class member that will babysit our human children for us . But when it comes to leaving our dog over nighttime , we would never stargaze of exit them with a gamey school girl that ’s just going to stop in on them every once in a while , or somebody that ’s off at study all twenty-four hour period , or something like that . So it is curious how we kind of move our life history around to ensure that our dogs have the best possible .
Jeff : You have it off we do , and by the way , I think , you ’re really peachy parent . So hats off to you and I love how you treat your dogs and believe of your dogs . And I would n’t think anything different .
Samantha : Awww , thank you . Like you said I stand for they ’re part of the family and I think that ’s a set more common now than it used to be . We have lots of friends and mob , who it ’s the same for them . So like I state when I saw the book Dogtology , obviously you see the word and it kind of you obviously sort of get the meaning of it just from the Scripture . You roll in the hay that it ’s some kind of humorous take on sort of worshiping and being devoted to frank . So I want to check out the book as I read it . Like you said , I was one of those people that this is , oh my gosh , this is about me . Every time you you twist a varlet and you scan dissimilar thing like the Book of Hydrants was funny to me because it was all those symbolic affair and the ritual and the thing like that . And our dogs almost have us educate as well as we consider we have them trained .
Jeff : It ’s rightful , in the Book of Hydrants , the communion of the bag , oh my gosh , imagine 24 lbf. gold , cute as can be , that ’s Romy . And I tell apart you what , I used to wake up , king - sized bed , and I wake up on the edge , and I ’m like — how does this happen ? And 24 pounds felt like a 124 pounds next to me . So I ’d actually scoot him over , it ’s like 3AM . , flash him over so I can get all the way on the bed . And I get a line this bad seeing red , like , — oh , I ’m no-good sir , did n’t mean to interrupt you , I ’ll just hang off the end then .
Samantha : How dare you wake me while I ’m sleeping . Oh that ’s funny . We do , we ’re co - sleepers with our dogs which is funny because , again , when we had human child , you hear all these thing as parents . You should co - slumber with your nestling because of this , you should n’t co - sleep because of this . And we never really put a whole passel of thought into that , but when it number to your frank , it ’s like , oh my gosh , they ca n’t sleep on the floor . Poor thing . They have to catch some Z’s on the bed .
Jeff : That ’s totally rightful . I mean , it ’s so queer when we think about this . It ’s like , human children , “ Can I come in the ? ” , “ No . Go to your elbow room . Go to your layer . ” And there ’s the weenie depart , “ Yeah . You discover your mammy , go to your room . ”
Samantha : When you were writing the book , did you influence with anybody else ? Did you throw ideas around with anybody ? Or did you just kind of sit down and just compose your own thought and your own experiences ?
Jeff : Great doubt . I did n’t involve to talk to anybody . I ’d seen enough . I mean , you ca n’t escape it right ? So , everyday you get laid there ’s inspiration , you go on Facebook and take care at these funny video and more and more . That would inspire me enough and I knew from the get go that I would be addressing things like that in there and the whole cats and their interplay with computers . I knew I would be addressing that in Book of the Mouse in Catakism .
It ’s easy because our whole lives we ’ve experienced so many dog lover and qat lover and , hey , we have them in my family . search at my experience . We ’ve talked about journey and not want to be away from the deary too long . I used to go aside and my dog Romy would stay with my mom . I would call and it got to the decimal point where my mommy would just literally answer the telephone and go — he ’s fine . Not hello , just — he ’s fine . Great , I ’ll you again in an time of day mom . No you wo n’t . The book is certainly not about me . The book is for sure about all of us . My experience was a plenty .
Samantha : Absolutely . So they ’re both available on Amazon . I think they ’re like $ 15 , something like that . I think Catakism is a petty cheaper , mayhap like $ 12 or something . I think they ’re both around $ 15 on Amazon . We actually grease one’s palms a couple special copies to give because both sides of our sept are andiron lovers . We have one of my husband ’s brother , my buddy - in - law , they have real coffee table books . They have a coffee table with four or five books . So we got this for them and we actually could n’t even hold back to give it to them . We gave them to them last weekend at a family gathering that we had and they just crack up up laughing .
One of the things that I want listeners to opine about is these are great books for any pet lover in your house . They make a really dandy , inexpensive book for somebody . They ’re great stewardess endowment as well . I did desire to advert that , too .
Jeff : They ’re wide usable at major book sellers — Books - a - million , Barnes and Noble , independent ledger vendor can get them in , even Target , Walmart number the books . Not only can you order on Amazon and they ’ll present it , but in this day and age they can fork up it under your pillow because they can get in now .
Samantha : That ’s right , that ’s so true .
Jeff : Yes , and you know Catakism spread up , I remember within 24 hour it was a blistering novel release , number one newfangled spillage on Amazon for a calendar month and because of that they did drop the price to $ 12.40 so I ’m like oh , OK . So I do n’t know why that is but hey we ’ll take it .
Samantha : Yes , I think when I looked it was a little bit cheaper but either mode even if it run low up to the 15 , you lie with they ’re beautiful . One of the things I sleep together is they ’re beautiful hardcover Word and like you said the instance are humorous . But there ’s also some really good ones in there that when you face at it you consider — oh my gosh , that ’s my cad or that ’s my cat . Like they have that crabbed face or they ’re drool for a dainty or something like that .
I do n’t have a go at it why this is and I have always since I was slight , we grew up with wiener too but I make love blackguard paws . I do n’t know what it is about their little foot but I love dog paws . So some of the more artistic pictures in there of paws and things like that caught my eye . They ’re beautiful people of colour photos and a gracious hardback book , so it makes a really nice gift or a great little coffee table piece to put out for your guests . It looks very professional I think but it ’s at a cheaper price . It ’s not just a cheap looking soft-cover book book so I like that .
Jeff : Oh , yes and we ’ll credit Sky Horse publishing out of New York . They did a wondrous job , I mean so firm masking and the pictures are amazing and we had a peachy time take the pictures . Oh my gosh .
Samantha : I bet .
Jeff : Yes .
Samantha : Did you encounter all the pictures online or are any of them yours ?
Jeff : So some secrets . A lot of them were online and a combination of some singular things that we were able to find through some the great unwashed .
Samantha : So we wo n’t see Romy ’s not in here at all ?
Jeff : Well there is a picture of Romy in the back of Dogtology .
Samantha : Right but not throughout the Koran or anything like that ?
Jeff : No , not at all because the ledger are n’t about me …
Samantha : I do like the niggling section , I forget about that you have that little section about the source ’s dog which was really cute too .
Jeff : Yes , that ’s the only part that was about me . Just the one page was my experience which receive the aim of my worship , Romy .
Samantha : Yes , absolutely . Now do you have hombre ? Have you had cat in the past ?
Jeff : Oh , I have .
Samantha : Oh you have .
Jeff : So I ’ve had the experience of you roll in the hay come in home and not knowing my position . Am I loved , am I hated ? What ’s going on ?
Samantha : So honest .
Jeff : I did n’t sympathise it for the first couple week the cat was not a little kitten . I regrettably inherited the quat there , so I did n’t get the kitten stage . But I loved him and I ’d do home , I ’m like — what did I do wrong , I do n’t read . We were just nest and purring , and now you detest me . And I jest about this in Catakism of course of instruction in the book of Cattitude in the chapter The Book of Surrender , where I direct out distinctly that it ’s just best that you just add up clean and just render yourself a handmaiden in your own home because that is your life and you have prefer it . So embrace it , and your life will be that much soft .
Samantha : So genuine . That ’s funny , it is so much unlike being a dog owner than it is being rigorously a cat possessor . Of course we have both so we sort of have drive ourselves used to it . But I did not acquire up with cat . My dad was supersensitive to cats so we never had Caterpillar as children . But when I make a motion out on my own and we have our own kids and our old girl begged and beg for a bozo . So both me and my hubby were not … Not that we were n’t qat citizenry but we just did n’t have the experience with cats . So we run back and forth on it for a petty while . Finally we undermine on the CT affair .
So a proficient supporter of ours has a few cats and she ’s been a quat lover forever and only has cats . So I asked her — we ’re going to go to the shelter and we ’re going to pick out this cat , what are some of the things that we should stop and get before we bring this cat home ? And so she gave us a inclination of thing and she said , and I ’m become to tell you this , because she grew up with dogs and now only has cats . And she say , “ This is my advice for anybody who is raw to being a cat someone or a cat owner , but they ’ve known frank and had dog . Dogs hold out to serve you . They want to please you . They are well train , they want to do thing to make you felicitous . Cats are the exact opposite . You have to dwell to serve them and that is what they dwell for , is for you to do their bidding . ”
So I chuckled and I express joy about it then , and now of class we have our own bozo and like you said , we walk in the door every day and it ’s like — are you going to snuggle me today or are you going to conceal in the cellar and we ’re not going to see you ? It just depends on the mean solar day , if it ’s a good 24-hour interval or a bad day .
Jeff : whole true . you may lock a dog in the tree trunk of car , and you better not because a cat wo n’t kill you I will , but if somebody were to do that , you open up the trunk the next twenty-four hour period and guess what ? The dog jumps up , “ Hey , where have you been ? ” and is licking your font . It ’s just that relationship is just constant , you know the dog bed you . You have it away when you get home that click is going to be there jump up and down or you know what make me laugh ? Is when the dog makes laps around the living room .
Samantha : Yes .
Jeff : Oh is that not the funniest matter when dogs do that ?
Samantha : I love that . I love that .
Jeff : Me too . I always used to go — “ go , go , quicker , ” and egg him on and then I ’d be in trouble for doing that by the humans . “ It ’s tough for the rug . ” I ’m like who care ?
Samantha : He ’s so happy .
Jeff : Exactly . And it get me glad . And the Arabian tea relationship of course is what we ’re talking about is so totally different , but there ’s something psychological for the human there I recall in those relationship with cat . It ’s like always strain for acceptance we are . But we ’ve accepted that . We accept it every import of every day at home , we ’re run short to be earning the respect and love from the cat . It ’s really risible .
Samantha : So true . You emphatically have to pull in it and I believe that ’s the biggest thing that we study is the divergence between being a dog owner and being a bozo owner for certain .
Jeff : Yeah , oh definitely . And in a family like yours , I mean what ’s the ratio ? Four to two ? Four cats .
Samantha : It is and we ’re in Maine and were in a very rural area so our Caterpillar go out of doors and they of row have their small hombre threshold so they spend the nights inwardly and the days alfresco . And it ’s very peculiar because there are times when the dogs are out work in the yard , and we have a big orange tabby cat and he ’s almost as bad as our beagle . So she ’ll have something that she ’s playing with , a ball or a toy , and he ’ll just go over and look at her and you lie with that the look he ’s ease up her is “ I require what you have . ” And she ’ll just kind of drop it and put her head down like she ’s ashamed of herself and he ’ll take her toy and it ’s the funniest thing to keep an eye on that . Caterpillar in spades have thee rein of our house for indisputable .
Jeff : Mhhmm . And what do they think of the detent ? Do they allow the dog be or …
Samantha : Again it ’s day to day . If it ’s a good day … Our orangeness tabby ’s very funny . He will recreate and wrestle with our beagle , they ’re almost the same size . We have a little small female that have sex to wrestle and play with the dogs when she ’s on her dominion , when she wants to and the orangish one ’s the same way . Some day he ’ll writhe and playact and some years he will slip their toys and just be terrible to them . Then we have one who hides from the dogs most of the prison term . Then we have another little female big cat and she is always up higher than the click and just looks down on them . My husband always call in her the queen of the business firm , because she likes to sit up on something and she depend down on them , and if they try and arrive near her and sniff her , she ’ll bat their olfactory organ when they seek to sniffle her .
Jeff : Yes . Very amusing .
Samantha : They ’ve learned to kind of just rest away from the cats unless one of them wants to play with you , which is kind of what we do too . You just sort of give them their space and if they want you to pet them they ’ll come to you .
Jeff : precisely . It ’s when they want . It ’s their damage . A dog-iron ’s docket is us , like the andiron says , “ So what are we doing ? We ’re playing ? We ’re walking . We ’re going to the store ? What are we doing ? What are we doing ? ” That ’s the agenda for the hotdog . It ’s us .
But the cat ’s schedule is the cat ’s agendum . And we have to equip into that docket .
Samantha : perfectly . Absolutely .
Jeff : Yes . Totally different . It ’s no fun . And the matter about whether it ’s a cat or a dog , and we ’re having this conversation , come in in anybody else , like — Oh , my gosh , you should see what my dog does . Or , you should see what my cat did to our dog . Or like —
Oh , no , what materialise here ? — and that ’s what this is all about .
It ’s like — oh , well you think your Canis familiaris is precious . You think your cat ’s rum . Well , check this out . Well , my cat fell off a bookcase at six metrical unit up . Mine decrease off the ceiling ! — Like they ’re going to one - up it .
Samantha : Right .
Jeff : — And then got up and looked around and said , “ Well , I think to do that . ”
So we express joy about that stuff , but that ’s the society we ’re in and we require to show off the domestic dog and the cats .
Samantha : I can not secernate you how many times we have been out with friends and , like most multitude pull up pictures of their children — oh , look at little Susie at her Christmas reading . We have friends who will say — oh my gosh , you ’ll never guess , depend at this cute small sweater that I got the dog . And they draw in up on their smartphone a picture . Or — oh , my gosh , you ’ll never guess , our hombre was in a corner the other day and it was the cutest thing . And they deplumate up a photograph . Or when you get on social medium , how many pictures of people ' creature when you ’re scroll through do you see .
And talking about where the books are usable too , we ’ll make certain that anybody that ’s listening , we ’ll have on our website , which is theoryofpets.com . And on Top Dog Tips too . There ’ll be contact to the leger if anybody wants to crack out where they ’re usable for leverage . And your websites as well , we can link to those , so it ’s kind of spry , anybody that wants to chute on there can just jump and there ’ll be links to everything correct in one lieu .
Jeff : Sure , there is Dogtology.com , Catakism.com and you might want to have just those two and if not this is also jefflazarus.com and that ’s a site that ’s really about me as an generator of the three books that I currently have out and my author coaching program and agency that I run .
Samantha : That ’s bang-up I did n’t recognize that you did an author coaching program , that ’s cool .
Jeff : Yes , I do and I am now an agent and will be found my own publishing label in the next month .
Samantha : Wow , grotesque . So do you have plans towrite more booksor are you kind of focusing now more on the publishing side of it ?
Jeff : Well it ’s actually both . I ca n’t stop give content and fabric . In fact with Dogtology and Catakism there ’s in reality likely to be a third book in that serial and here ’s a semi - spoiler alert . It ’s another four legged animal wildly sleep together by the the great unwashed , the humans that roll in the hay them .
Yes that ’s as far as we ’ll go . But I ’ve had a lot of hoi polloi asking about it and that ’s one that I think ’s by democratic demand . It ’s fare up enough that I ’m listening and I ’m like you know what , that ’s an interesting book . So I have some ideas for that . I have also other more ego improvement concern related books in the work that are unrelated to this . The favorite thing justly now for me in my world are Dogtology and Catakism and I sleep with them dearly , I just do . They were so much playfulness to right hand and I am glad that people are well-chosen and I just roll in the hay , roll in the hay seeing that .
Samantha : Yes , absolutely and I think that ’s the good thing for me interpret through Dogtology is you relate to it , it ’s an wanton read , it ’s funny , it is just a tone good kind of book which is really nice particularly in today ’s gild everybody wants a feel good thing . So I ’m sure they were a attack to write , they were a lot of playfulness to read .
So like I said , we ’ll put the links up there for everybody if they ’re interested in the books or the website they can check that out and of course listen to the podcasts . And we will have a transcript up there for anybody that wants to say it or else of listening . So all form of good stuff there on our site theoryofpets.com and Top Dog Tips as well .
So thank you so much again for your metre today . I really apprise you taking the meter to talk to us about the books and the process of writing them .
Jeff : Well thank you very much . It ’s a heap of merriment , I always love it and you were fun to speak to and I appreciate it .
Samantha : Another big thanks to Jeff Lazarus for come on and talking to us about the books that he ’s written , the process of that and novel and exciting things are come in the future . I hope you cat had as much fun take heed to this interview as I had making it . Jeff was a flack to talk to , really odd guy . The Holy Scripture showcases his humour in the book . They ’re great easy read and as I said they make a really great gift for favorite owner that has everything .
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